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Old 08-04-2012, 10:00 AM
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Default Amble 1841 Census

(I'll record here the names of the heads on the '41 census, many families have people at the address with a differet surname - a few will be inlaws but many I assume are lodgers, any surname of these 'additionals' that rings a bell I'll list along the bottom. All the numbers in brackets should add up to 725)


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6th June, 1841 Census summary for Amble Township. 1st Head of family in Building. Name, age, number of people in dwelling in brackets, first number is same surname as 1st head, second number is different surname to 1st head.


132 Buildings:

[sorted by surname]

Alexander Allen 27 (2+1)
Edward Apellbee 30 (6+2)
Margaret Appleby 85 (2+2)
Peter Banning 35 (1+2)
Isabella Bell, 45 (5+1)
William Blakey 35 (3)
Walter Braidford 30 (6)
Jane Braidford 60 (5+2)
Edward Briggs 40 (2+2)
John Brown 25 (4)
George Brown 30 (7+1)
Thomas Browne 39 (9 + 6)
Matthew Burlinson 20 (3)
Thomas Carss, 45 (5)
William Castles 25 (2)
John Chambers 40 (2+4)
Christopher Charlton 40 (2)
John Clark, 39 (2+1)
George Clark, 40 (3+4)
William Codling 25 (3)
John Conner 20 (5+2)
George Cook 30 (5+4)
David Curry (4+4)
Andrew Dawson 35 (6)
Robert Dawson 35 (7+3)
George Dawson, 55 (5+2)
James Dennis 52 (4+2)
James Ditchburn 35 (5)
Thos Donaldson 25 (3)
William Douglas 34 (6+1)
Mark Douglas, 60 (6)
James Driden 45 (6)
John Driden, 60 (5)
Robert Dryden 20 (1+1)
Mathew Fairs 45 (5+2)
Thomas Forster 50 (6)
Robert Gair 35 (7)
William Gair 60 (2)
Matw. Gaur 25 (3+2)
Arthur Gaur 36 (3+1)
Arthur Gaur 65 (5)
Ralph Grahm 45 (4)
Eleanor Grey 65 (1+1)
John Hailey 30 (6+4)
James Hailey 40 (4+1)
David Hall 35 (6+1)
Thos Handyside 60 (4)
Martyn Henderson 25 (3)
John Holdsworth 53 (2+2)
Richard Horn 25 (2+2)
George Hornsby 20 (4)
John Hornsby 60 (3+1)
Edward Huntley 40 (2)
John James 22 (2)
Joseph Jeffrey, 50 (6+3)
John Jolley 30 (4+1)
George Keaney 35 (3+2)
Thos Keaney 40 (7)
Andrew Kirkwall 25 (4+1)
William Knox 40 (5+2)
John Laggon 35 (4+2)
S. Lee 35 (5+1)
Robert Mabon 25 (3)
James Macklam 40 (1+3)
John Menican, 30 (8)
James Miller 30 (2+3)
Jane Mole 25 (2+1)
William Morrison 37 (1+3)
George Morton 18 (2)
John Mould 30 (4)
William Mould 55 (4)
James Mulholland, 25 (4)
Wm Murray 25 (3+3)
Matthw Newland 25 (3+2)
William Newton 25 (1+1)
James Nichol 35 (4+6)
John Nichol, 65 (2+4)
George Pally 20 (3+1)
Thomas Patterson 28 (5)
Andrew Patterson 77 (4)
Henry Peacock 50 (2+3)
Isabella Pearson 50 (5+2)
William Peart, 35 (3+1)
William Perrie 60 (3+2)
Charles Pigg 30 (3+1)
William Potts 50 (4+2)
James Pringle 30 (2+2)
John Pringle 30 (8)
William Readford 60 (3+2)
Isabella Richardson 53 (6+1)
Robert Ridley 20 (3)
William Robinson 25 (2+2)
Alexander Robinson 35 (6)
Robert Rutherford 25 (4)
David Rutherford, 40 (9)
James Sanderson 25 (2 + 1)
John Sanderson 73 (2)
William Schorey 30 (2)
John Scott 50 (5+1)
Ann Scott 60 (1+1)
John Shanks 45 (6+1)
Robert Shanks 90 (1)
Robert Shotton 60 (2)
Lancelot Smith 40 (5)
James Stanners 50 (5)
Andrew Stephenson 40 (9)
John Taylor 20 (2+5)
Mat. Taylor 35 (6)
Mary Thirlwell 70 (3+6)
John Thompson 25 (6+1)
William Thompson 45 (4)
Ralf Tuff 60 (2)
Alexander Turner 25 (3+1)
John Turner 30 (2+3)
Cuthbert Turner 40 (4+3)
Thomas Turner 60 (6)
John Turner 75 (2+7)
William Waddell 30 (7)
Thomas Walker 55 (2+1)
John Wandlass, 20 (3)
Thomas Wear 40 (3)
Lewis Wear 50 (2+2)
William White 25 (2+1)
Robert Whitfield 30 (4+1)
Edward Whitfield 40 (3)
William Wilkie, 35 (6+1)
George Wilkinson 44 (6+3)
Barnard Windsley 27 (3+2)
Nicholas Wynn 35 (5+4)
Charles Young 20 (4+4)
Matthew Young 30 (2+3)
Ann Young 68 (1+1)



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Old 08-04-2012, 12:17 PM
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Re 1841 census, you need to be careful about households. Take for example, Isabella Pearson, it goes down to John Lothian before there is another double line by the enumerator. That makes it one building but the last two people are in a separate household (single enumerator's line!)
All of the Gairs in Amble are mine, William and Jane are my 4 times great grandparents. Current descendants that I know of, living in Amble, John Gair and my cousin Davie Gray (Puffin cruises).
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Old 08-04-2012, 12:44 PM
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Looking again at the census, I was trying to work out the order of the households. I know William and Jane Gair were at Link House Farm (now the Wellwood, I believe), so I guess the enumerator started with the gentry at Amble House (the Brownes) and then moved up the modern High Street.

Also what about Gloster Hill, this was a separate township in 1841, but I would say it should be considered as part of Amble!

I'm intrigued, Coquet, about how you can bring the people forward to the current day. My lot, mostly agricultural labourers, were in and out of Amble.
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Old 08-04-2012, 12:45 PM
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So if I change "Households" to "Buildings" it will make sense at this stage then I can go back and divide them up?


There's a lot of Irish Labourers here at this time. Someone did ask if I knew of a list of the Harbour Construction Navigators - perhaps I should have directed him to the 1841 census.

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Old 08-04-2012, 01:08 PM
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That makes sense as a starting point. I was trying to check the dates of the building of the harbour....my Amble books are not here. Seems to be 1838 to 1849, so there would be a lot of labourers on the census.
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Old 08-04-2012, 03:08 PM
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1837 permission was granted to build the Harbour I believe. Also in that 1841 Census men recorded as "Miners" will more than likely be Radcliffe Colliery Miners as I think it was the only near by pit operating at that time?
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I may be wrong, but is Link House Farm not the house at the beginning of Links road where Marine road and Ivy St join.
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Old 08-04-2012, 03:29 PM
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I get the 1000 yard stare when I see the words "Link House" - confusing it is.

That farm at the end of Ivy Street is Shown as "Amble Link Farm" on the 1896 map, and the place we call the Granary is marked as "Link House".

The first OS Map 1860 doesn't help as the farmhouse that becomes the Wellwood has already been converted to a pub.
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Old 08-04-2012, 03:43 PM
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what about this one:

1842 Tithe Award

Link House looks like the Granary, cannot see any detail in Amble due to the low res scan

You can see the outlying farms going anti-clockwise: New Hall, Hope House, Moor House, Link House.
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Old 08-04-2012, 03:46 PM
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I think you've been looking at the same maps as me on Northumberland Communities. You would think that a farm called link house might be on the links, wouldn't you? Anyone got their copy of McAndrews with them? I recall that he mentions the farm and then Bluebell Lane which is Wellwood Street/Albert Street.
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That area 11 purple border (for Link House) extends right into Amble along Albert street (to be) and encompassing the Wellwood - so there you go.
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This map shows the work on the harbour as being underway in 1840, as I'm sure it says "Breakwater, now forming" for the North Pier

Amble Township plan 1840

I knew the Coquet was straightened for the harbour but I didn't realise by how much??


The Land in three blocks South to North: "Mr Wellwood" does it say?? (Link House), "Mr G. Smith" across the river mouth, and "Lady Newbrough", the north side
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Old 08-04-2012, 04:25 PM
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It would be fascinating to overlay a transparency of modern Amble on top. It looks like the river was Leazes st, Ladbroke st and around below Bay View. A lot of land looks to have reclaimed when the harbour was built.
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McAndrews:



At the beginning of the nineteenth century, Amble was divided into three farms. Hedley's Farm at the west end. The farmyard was situated on the site, and near what is now Gibson Street; part of the buildings being incorporated in the present houses. The three low, one-storied cottages opposite, were the housing accommodation—the two-roomed one acting as the farm-house.
Close by stood the farm-house of the Link Farm, and the farm steading was on the site of the now blacksmith's shop in Albert Street. The other was the Link House Farm, the Wellwood Arms public-house being the farmhouse with the farm steading adjoining.
The principal occupation of the few cottagers in the winter-time of these days was the use of the thrail, and the thrail man thrashed the corn on the earthen floor of his living-room. There was also a tithe barn where we now have Walker's Yard. Close by is another bit of old Amble with the date 1749, and the inscription:


H
R.M.
1749


on the massive door-head. This house belonged to a family named Hudson, the last of whom was an old lady named Tibby Hudson, who sold the cottage and adjoining land to John Turner, and eventually ended her days in an alms-house. At the corner of Wellwood Street in line with Amble House and Wellwood Arms there were four one-story cottages two of which are still standing. Another low, thatched cottage stood in High Street, which, together with Amble House, the residence of Squire Taylor, and those already mentioned, comprised the sum-total of Amble one hundred years ago .
Previous to the building of the harbour, Amble did not extend beyond what is now known as Wellwood Street. The harbour contractor during a delay in the contract, with a keen eye to business, built a large block of property at the top end of Queen Street, extending into Church Street, long known as Welch's Buildings, which also included a public-house. Captain Parry, an old soldier who had served at Waterloo, rented the public-house for his son, and named it after the famous battle.
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Old 08-04-2012, 04:30 PM
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The "Capt Parry" McAndrews mentions will be the Wm. Perrie on our 1841 census (Aged 60)
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How are you going to capture all this enthusiasm, Coquet! It seems, from the 1840 map, as if Wellwood Esq had farm land down by the Links but his farmhouse was in the beating heart of Amble. There is certainly a Link House Farm on the 1840 map, by the sea, and also on Armstrong's 1769 map. That is an interesting one, showing the original course of the Coquet.
I was also trying to work out the road system on that map. The road to Amble comes up from Togston with New Hall to the right of the roadway. I seem to remember when we used to go for our Sunday walks that there was a green lonnen connecting Togston to Amble. I wonder if that was the original road?
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Old 09-04-2012, 08:17 AM
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I was also trying to work out the road system on that map. The road to Amble comes up from Togston with New Hall to the right of the roadway. I seem to remember when we used to go for our Sunday walks that there was a green lonnen connecting Togston to Amble. I wonder if that was the original road?

We need the 1:1250 scale maps for a good look! Not sure if they are all at Woodhorn; the Northumberland council will have them though.
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Old 09-04-2012, 11:22 AM
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It seems that all roads lead to Woodhorn. I wonder if they would allow a tent city so that people don't have to travel there and back and pay the parking fee

Thinking about this lonnen a bit more, it came off to the left on the Togston bends, ran on to New Hall and then down the field boundary to a field gate at the corner of the cemetery (I'm talking pre housing estate). It then became the cemetery road. That would have run straight to Togston Square, Link House Farmhouse and Amble House.

I recall another one that cut by Hope House and came out at Hauxley road ends (there was a small triangular field there with a donkey) and one that cut through to Togston Barns. (good for brambling!).

I believe the Hope/Hauxley Lonnen was where the evicted Radcliffe families pitched their camp in the 1844 pit strike?
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There was a lonnen from the Hauxley road ends to the Hope House farm and thence the crossroads on the Broomhill road from Amble. You can still use this as it has been replaced, post opencast but not on exactly the original line. The orignal one was joined by the Green Lonnen at the Hope railway bridge this ran from the dip in the road between Togston Barns and East Togston and was known locally as a good brambling spot.The lonnen you mention from Togston to Amble via the cemetery road has now also been replaced after the opencast and there is a network of tracks in that area on which you can travel to Warkworth, Morwick and Acklington quite easily.
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I've split these 1841 census posts off from the Cemetery thread. Any observations on the Census can be recorded in this thread.
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