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Old 21-01-2014, 10:16 AM
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Default Another Amble Young.

Had this sent to me regarding another Thomas Young in Amble in the mid 19c.
I'm not sure if this is a relative to the Thomas Young that ran the Harbour Inn and is mentioned in Ken Young's thread "Amble and my ancestors".

Probably worth recording here in case anyone comes across anything in the future.


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Old 21-01-2014, 10:17 AM
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Hi


I contacted Alnmouth History Society last night and they kindly drew my attention to your society and its efforts to establish old records re Amble


My wife's past family originated in Amble and Alnmouth and I can trace them back as far as 1797 and then get stuck, or at least maybe a few assumptions need to be made to progress back through the publication on the Parish Registers of Lesbury beyond the 1770's


We have the attached old family letter from 1847 that might be of interest to you.


It is written by a Mr William Black ( born in Scotland in 1776 d.1858) who was a Master Gunner In the letter he describes his journey in August 1847 down to a new work posting with HM Navy at Devonport with his wife Eleanor Young. Eleanor Young was born in the Alnmouth/Amble area in 1780 and died in 1854 in Devonport. William and Eleanor were married on Holy Island on 6 July 1809


Eleanor Young had a brother Thomas Young ( born about 1779 in Alnmouth) who was a mariner on HMS Eagle. Thomas was married to an Isabella as we also have a copy of old family papers dated May 1804 assigning over his 6d a week from his wages on HMS Eagle at that time. By deduction from the birth registers of Lesbury Parish at that time I'm pretty sure her maiden name was Isabella Cook, daughter of Robert Cook of Alnmouth (born about 1750). HMS Eagle was registered out of Alnmouth I believe, but I don't have any photos or info on the ship. Do you have anything?


Where Amble comes into the picture is that Thomas Young was living in Amble in 1847, or at least working there in the docks, and travelling from a residence in Alnmouth locality. In 1841 he was a seaman. in 1851 he was retired from Royal Navy and in 1861 was still working age 82 as a ferryman. I guess through that period from 1847 being involved in construction of your new harbour. We have a treasured family heirloom of a lathe turned bog oak fruit bowl about 25cm diameter that was made from one of the old ship mooring posts at Amble Harbour reclaimed we think by Thomas Young while he was working on the dock rebuild in the 1850's?


Anyway, hope this snippet is of interest to you. Do you by any chance have any more information or pictures ofHMS Eagle, the Young family at that time, or the reconstruction of the docks? Thomas Young witnessed a lot of weddings in the 1810- 1840's Maybe he was a locally well known person or a captain?

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Old 21-01-2014, 10:22 AM
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thanks for help. Yes quite happy for you to publish the letter and background info. Will be interesting if any one has pictures of Maid of Aln or HMS Eagle, or any connections. I did try to complete a chart of every Young in the 1905 publication of all the B.D and M in Lesbury Parish for the period from 1610 to 1815 but the reality is that after about 150 hrs of effort I concluded I was needing to make too many assumptions to cover gaps. So I have just the following of which I am certain


Working down from the Thomas Young that we are interested in his known immediate descendants are I believe


Thomas Young B.1779 Alnmouth. m. Isabella (probably Cook) of Alnmouth. Was seaman on HMS Eagle in 1804 and listed in census for Alnmouth through to 1861 although the family letter suggests from the address that he was living/working in Amble in 1847


Thomas Young had a known sister Eleanor Young B.1780 Alnmouth D.1854 Devonport Married on Holy Island 6 July 1809 to William Black. I think they had just one unmarried son John Black B.1811 in Warkworth


Thomas & Isabella had 4 children
1. unknown daughter B. 1811 or earlier
2. Mary Young B.1812 in Alnmouth who married John Smith and through who's family the letter has descended (see below)
3. Unknown son B. sometime between 1813 and 1826
4. Isabella Young B. 1827 in Alnmouth


John & Mary (nee Young) Smith and in 1841 lived in Alnmouth but in 1851 were in Amble where their two known children were born.


Thomas Robert Smith B. 22August 1851 in Amble; Married Caroline Richardson B.1859 in Grindon He was a blacksmith around the Alnmouth area


Isabella Smith was B around November 1852 and does not seem to have married but leved and worked around Amble and in 1891 was at 6 North Street, Amble


Like many families we has some relatives emigrate to Australia. John William Burn B.1887 Newcastle, but he was not a blood line descendent of Thomas Young only be marriage lien through his sister Susannah marrying into the Smith family.



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Old 21-01-2014, 11:27 AM
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Fascinating stuff. I see the "Sailing Ships of Aln and Coquet" covers the Maid of Aln (1841 and 1875).
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Old 21-01-2014, 06:01 PM
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Eighteen ships of the Royal Navy have borne the name HMS Eagle, after the eagle.
HMS Eagle was an ex-merchantman purchased in 1592 and in use as a careening hulk. She was sold in 1683.
HMS Eagle was a 12-gun ship, previously the French ship Aigle, captured in 1650 and sold in 1655.
HMS Eagle was a 22-gun armed ship, previously named HMS Selby. She was renamed HMS Eagle in 1660, used as a fireship from 1674 and sunk as a foundation in 1694.
HMS Eagle was a 6-gun fireship captured from the Algerians in 1670 and expended in 1671.
HMS Eagle was a 6-gun fireship purchased in 1672 and foundered in 1673.
HMS Eagle was a 70-gun third rate launched in 1679, rebuilt in 1699 and wrecked in 1707.
HMS Eagle was a 10-gun advice boat launched in 1696 and wrecked in 1703.
HMS Eagle was a fireship sunk in 1745 as a breakwater.
HMS Eagle was a 58-gun fourth rate launched in 1745 and sold in 1767.
HMS Eagle was a 14-gun sloop launched in 1745. Her fate is unknown.


[SIZE="7"]HMS Eagle was a 64-gun third rate launched in 1774. She was attacked by the submersible Turtle during the American Revolution, was placed on harbour service from 1790 and renamed HMS Buckingham in 1800. She was broken up in 1812.
HMS Eagle was a 4-gun gunvessel, formerly a Dutch hoy purchased in 1794. She was sold in 1804.
HMS Eagle was a 12-gun gun-brig, previously the French ship Venteux. Loire captured her in 1803.[1] She was renamed HMS Eclipse in 1804 and was sold in 1807.[2]
HMS Eagle was a 74-gun third rate launched in 1804. She was reduced to 50 guns in 1830 and then became a training school in 1860, being renamed HMS Eaglet in 1918. She was lost in a fire in 1926; the wreck was sold in 1927.



[SIZE="5"]HMS Eagle was a one-gun brig built in 1812 that served as a tender to Poictiers. The American fishing smack Yankee used a stratagem to capture Eagle on 4 July 1812.
HMS Eagle was an American gunboat captured at the Battle of Lake Borgne on 14 December 1814. She remained in service until at least 4 June 1815.[3] Prize money for her and the other vessels captured at the battle was paid in July 1821.[4]
HMS Eagle was an early aircraft carrier, converted from an unfinished Chilean battleship, the Almirante Cochrane, launched in 1918, and sunk in 1942.
HMS Eagle was to have been an Audacious class carrier, laid down in 1944, but cancelled in 1945.
HMS Eagle (R05) was an Audacious class aircraft carrier originally designated HMS Audacious, launched in 1946 and broken up in 1978.
There was also HMS Eagle Shallop, a 6-gun sloop built in 1648 and listed until 1653.
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