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Old 19-11-2013, 12:28 PM
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I had a bit of a firtle among the Irish records and there are Craig families in Cavan and Monaghan. His sister married in Monaghan and had her early children there, so maybe we are barking up the wrong tree.
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Old 19-11-2013, 12:39 PM
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Yes I think it's a lovely red herring.

The fact '849' Thomas Craig's papers are missing could be significant. They could have been passed to the courts (if he's our man) during the murder trial and not have been returned or misfiled if they were.
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Old 26-10-2016, 05:49 PM
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A little information regarding Thomas Craig has been revealed in a document digitised by "findmypast"



This is the 'Habitual Criminals Register 1915'



(Page 248) A list of persons coming within the provisions of sections 5, 7 and 8 of the prevention of crimes act, 1871 continued

Office Number: 794 15

Name, Aliases, Prison and Register number: Thomas Craig, b 41, Parkhurst

Date and Place of Birth: 1859 Newbliss Ireland

Height without shoes: 5 9

Complexion: fr

hair: gr

eyes: bl

Marks: coal marks on forehead, r. cheek, and on nose; fleshy growth palm r. hand

Offence (in full), place of conviction, and officer in case, or place of committal: Manslaughter Northumberland Assizes (Broomhill and Alnwick)

Sentence and date of conviction: 20 yrs ps 19-2-1901

Date when penal servitude expires or supervision commences: 18-2-1921

Date of liberation, intended address, and occupation: 23-11-1915, Central Association, Miner

Remarks: requirements of Sec. 5 remitted



if you have a findmypast subscription that document is here
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Old 26-10-2016, 06:08 PM
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Cf:


The description of Thomas Craig who joined the army on 3 August 1878 is as follows:
On Attestation
age, apparently: 20 yrs
height: 5 feet 8 inches
chest measurement: 3 feet 0 inches
complexion: fresh
eyes: blue
hair: light brown
any distinctive mark:
Religious denomination: Church of England

(This is the Craig with the '1818' service number, served Zulu War and 1st Boer War. )
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Old 26-10-2016, 08:21 PM
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Good find. I wonder whether he is the military man.....Church of England and born in Ireland?

Does anyone know what "Central Association" means with regard to his on-going occupation in 1915.
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Old 27-10-2016, 08:29 AM
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Wasn't it some kind of relief / renumeration from a mining injury or accident?

I think it was still part of NUM meetings / discussions in the late 70's / early 80's from what I remember.
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Old 27-10-2016, 09:50 AM
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Some kind of parole/monitoring/support body for newly released convicts.


Exeter and Plymouth Gazette 13th of February 1911

Hope for Convicts.

The Home Office last night issued a statement announcing the formation of the new Central Association for the aid of discharged convicts. Persons discharged from penal servitude will come under the cognisance and control of this new central body, and it is proposed, except in unsuitable cases, to make arrangements which will suspend altogether supervision by the police as prescribed by the Prevention of Crimes Act. If a discharge person misbehaves he may be returned to police control under the full strictness of the present arrangements. The Home Secretary will be the president of the new Association, and Sir E. Ruggles Brise Chairman of the Council, which will consist of representatives of various prisoners aid societies.
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Just Googled it.
Established under the Prevention of Crimes Act 1908 to allow released offenders to be paroled to the newly established Central Association for the assistance of discharged convicts.

1911 Actual formation of the association. An umbrella group with a council of representatives from the leading societies.
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