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info on james harbottle " amble war memorial "
hi there,
looking for any thing on the family of corp, james harbottle 15815. he died 10/4/1917. he inlisted in amble but i cant find his age. i trying to do my family tree and with many thanks to this forum, i have found alot of harbottle graves. all the dates and names. again thanks. regards, william. |
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Looking at the 1911 Census there is a 22 year old James Harbottle at 53 Swarland Terrace, Red Row. (born 1889). Son of James and Alice Harbottle. Could be him. Would be about 28 when killed. |
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His married sister was Jane Matthewson if that means anything.
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james harbottle
hello coquet,
thank you for your reply, i think it could be him but just not 100% sure. if there was an age, but that would be to easy. james is down in the 1891census as born broomhill. could that be classed as chevington? you can see iam not from these parts. regards, william. |
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From what I recall, there were a number of local men killed whilst serving in the 8th Somersets, seems like an unusual sort of posting for men from Northumberland?
And I would also suggest that the Chevington/Broomhill link is correct just william |
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Looking at the 1911 census, the Swarland Terrace Harbottles seem to be the only family of that name in Chevington. They also seem to be all accounted for in the cemetery records apart from James.
His entry in the war dead in FindmyPast suggests that he enlisted first in the Northumberland Fusiliers (13967). I tried a trawl through the newspapers but the archive has only got as far as 1916 Some day.. |
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James harbourless
Hi john@thedrift & janwhin.
Thanks for both replays. Iam sure he is the same James. Sorry janwhin for having to search the papers, I know how Hard it is. I look up the old Belfast telegraph,when I get home. Your right john about James unusual posting, it was only Because it said he inlisted in amble. Wonder how many others Are there. Would there be a layout of the graves from St. John's and east Chevington cemetery ? Regards, William. |
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Yes it's an interesting one. At least 50 "previously xxxxx Northumberland Fusiliers" killed with that battalion. The service numbers around James' number are common in the 10th to 14th battalions - Kitchener's New Army men anyway. Also it looks like James may have been a Northumberland Fusilier in the UK during training but never made it overseas as one. |
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james harbottle
hi coquet,
thanks for the reply, at least james is remembered in amble will now be able to fill the empty space on my tree. regards, william. |
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If there's an obituary or notification in the newspaper [archive] of James' death then I'll probably come across it soon. I'll report back here immediately if it's the case!
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I thought of this thread when I saw this photo of William Harbottle of Amble.
He was killed in action 1st June 1915 with the 7th Bn. Northumberland Fusiliers. From Middleton Street, Amble. Any relation to James? he is, naturally, the next name down from James on the Clock Memorial. |
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I find that quite a haunting photograph.
I see from the CWG that he was the son of Thomas and Elizabeth. Last edited by janwhin; 08-11-2013 at 08:22 PM. |
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He should have died peacefully of old age surrounded by his family in the 1970s. Instead fate had a different plan for him. ...lest we forget.... |
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Looks like you've got another pair of cousins, Coquet. Their fathers seem to be brothers.
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It's all astonishingly tragic isn't it. As they say virtually no family was left untouched.
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And they said it was the war to end all wars. Not for my family.
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text for William:
PRIVATE W. HARBOTTLE DIES FROM WOUNDS. We regret to announce the death of another of our young soldiers, the news of which was sent by his captain. We refer to Private William Harbottle who died "Somewhere in France" from his wounds. He was the son of Mr. William Harbottle, of Middleton Street, Amble, who has another son fighting for his country. He like many others of our young men, soon after war was declared, took up arms for his country against the enemy. The deepest sympathy is manifested for his parents in their sad loss. The letter from his officer, Captain N. E. Smail, sent to Private Harbottle's father was as follows:- "I am very sorry to have to report to you that your son, No. 2414 Private W. Harbottle, No. 1 Company, 7th Northumberland Fusiliers, died of wounds on the 2nd inst. He was shot through the head by a sniper on or about the 30th of May and was conveyed to hospital. I had official intimation that he had died yesterday, and that he had been duly buried. Please accept my sincere sympathy." |
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William Henry harbottle. R I P
Hello coquet,
Thank you very much for the photo of william. I have a photo of his grave. I will look at both Tomorrow and think about him and all the ones Who never came home. Bless them all. The letter about his death is very moving iam Sure it was very up setting for his family. James is a cousin, think his father is matthew. Many thanks, William. |
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Came across this one, mentions a J. Harbottle form Amble. Probably the man above??
Broomhill Soldiers' Visit to the Fighting Line, Digging out Buried Soldiers. Edward Kitchen, of the Royal Army Medical Corps, France, an employee of the Broomhill Co-Operative Society, writes his workmates an interesting letter. He says: — Well, you will know that I have been up the line carrying the wounded out and it is awful to see those poor chaps lying suffering. I was up the other day, and the trenches are knee deep in some places, but the average is about one foot; and I can tell you it is not a soft job to carry a stretcher along them. We were sent to hospital a few miles away to help another ambulance, a few weeks back. The sights we saw were heartrending. I have never had the luck to see anybody I knew in hospital, but there was some Northumberland Fusiliers in it. They all belong to Newcastle and Durham. I have not seen one I know since I came to France; but I have been in the same town as Bob Henderson. They generally seem to go out just a few days before we get in. He is just about 5 miles from me now, but I can't get to see him. I was up the line the other night with J. Harbottle of Amble, and we were called out about 12 o'clock to go to help to dig two chaps out of a dug-out, which had fallen in while they were asleep. We got one out all right, but when we got to the other we found artificial respiration was needed. We applied it, but failed to pull him round; he had been too far gone. I am pleased that the other just suffer from a slight bruise and shock, and he came out all right. Well, I suppose the recruits are rolling up again around the old home, and so they ought to, as they will be needed before the war is over. I have heard about some Broomhill lads being missing. I must say I am very sorry. It seems hard to think that they don't know where the are. I feel very sorry for Andy Duff; it will be awful for his parents. They will be going through an anxious time just now. I suppose the store has lost another of its employees. They seem to be dwindling out. If they keep on, there will be nobody left. I've seen the letter from Ted Sanderson, in the Dardanelles. He must have been ill to lose so much weight, poor chap; and all I can say is I wish him a speedy recovery and the rest of the Broomhill boys the best of luck. Things will be very quiet around your way just now with so many away. We often get a bit lively here with our guns and Germans shells flying about. We generally get some for tea by way of a change from possy (jam). Well I have just had and enjoyed it under the circumstances. The weather is much better today, but what we have had has been most miserable. I thought that the road beside the Picture Hall was bad at times but these beat it easy. 11/12/1915 |
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