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Old 25-11-2012, 06:36 PM
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Morpeth Herald 23 May 1941: Amble War Weapons Week, a big parade on the links. "Mr W H Gray was parade marshall assisted by Mr R Nicholson. The Home Guard detachment was commanded by Captain W. J. Casey."

It looks like he died in Amble in 1946.
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Old 26-11-2012, 12:07 PM
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Thanks Janwhin. I've put in the bare facts as we know them. That's some service that chap had.
He would have medals for 3 major wars, although he might not have lived to see his 'Defence Medal*' for WW2. (*Assuming he got 3 years in to qualify)
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Old 26-11-2012, 01:20 PM
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Interesting career. Maybe there is a bit of an obituary in the Alnwick Gazette which would require a sit at the microfilm reader in Alnwick library.

You might like to remove the copyright reference from the bottom of your page on the honours men. I'm always happy to take the credit, of course
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Old 26-11-2012, 01:24 PM
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By the way, Coquet, where do you manage to find service histories for these men? When I search on Ancestry it looks like most of the NF records are missing. I assumed they were part of the burnt records.
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Old 26-11-2012, 02:41 PM
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Good Idea. If I get to Alnwick this week I'll check for an obit. I could do with some pickled gherkins from Aldi too.


A few years back I spoke to a chap called Jonathan Collins a well known researcher for us medal types and he told me there were disproportionate losses of NF service papers. This does seem the case now we can check them ourselves. So unfortunately they are few and far between.

Doing an "Amble" search on Ancestry in Draft & Enlistment papers it produces 116
Pension records search produces 56
with maybe a dozen spurious/duplicate results in there.
And these are all units, so quite a hopeless survival rate all round when you look at the amount of names on the Absent voters lists.

I don't know if these links will work:

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin...&uidh=vs3&so=2


http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin...&uidh=vs3&so=2


Officers' papers are a much better story with the bulk having survived, but they are not online yet. Regarding our man Casey though the chance is high that they are unavailable at the current time because his WW2 Home Guard service probably means they are still with the MoD.
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Old 26-11-2012, 02:56 PM
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draft enlistment for "Acklington" gives 89

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin...AAEwwATC5A-61-

pension search gives 33

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin...&uidh=vs3&so=2
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Old 26-11-2012, 05:10 PM
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Thanks for your detailed response, Coquet. Sadly my ancestors were not officer material, I have 1 sergeant and 1 private in World War One Radcliffe based NF

I have one helpful hint for you, you'll be searching a long time for gherkins in Alnwick Aldi, there isn't one.....try Lidl or if you want to go upmarket, Sainsbury
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Old 26-11-2012, 05:15 PM
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Officers' papers are a much better story with the bulk having survived, but they are not online yet. Regarding our man Casey though the chance is high that they are unavailable at the current time because his WW2 Home Guard service probably means they are still with the MoD.
Just checked the National Archives. They've released Durham Home Guard records and reckon that they are the first to be available.
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I have one helpful hint for you, you'll be searching a long time for gherkins in Alnwick Aldi, there isn't one.....try Lidl or if you want to go upmarket, Sainsbury
I knew it was some four letter word!


I do hope we get to see the Northumberland Home guard records, a number of our Great War veterans will pop up again in those lists I imagine.
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Old 26-11-2012, 07:01 PM
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Default W J Casey and J lynn.

Casey was the resident instructor to the TA in Amble and his family were brought up here. I went to school with his grandson, also named Walter. There were Caseys in Amble until last year when Joe Casey , son of Walter J, died he was 92 and lived in West Crescent. He worked at both Hauxley and Whittle collieries.
Jack Lynn lived next door to my grandparents in Centre Row Radcliffe and was Caseys second in command in the Home Guard in the rank of Lieutenant, he worked at Hauxley colliery and ended his days in Leslie Drive in Amble after moving from Radcliffe.
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Old 26-11-2012, 08:32 PM
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Alan, have you got anything on James Douglass? The most likely candidate was living in Cross Row in the 1911 census, a 31 years old miner. Of course with a name like that it's not that straightforward.
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Old 27-11-2012, 08:08 PM
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Have trawled through the Radcliffe 1911 census and only came up with two James Douglass' ( note the double s as opposed to Douglas with one s). They were both in Cross Row one in East and one in West. East was your 31 year old and West was aged 42 in 1911.
I would favour the 31 year old as by the end of the war he would have still been in his late 30's where the other one would have been pushing 50 possibly too old for active service.
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Old 27-11-2012, 10:17 PM
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Yes, that was my reasoning too. The double ss seems pretty consistent.
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Old 28-11-2012, 12:37 AM
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It's a difficult one. They territorials did go at some respectable ages. Here's an example of one in the 1/5th Northumberland Fusiliers.

But as you say it's more likley to be the younger one.

The Western Front Association have obtained a new series of documents that might help if a pension claim was made but I assume they won't be available for a while. I'm looking forward to seeing/using them anyway.
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Old 28-11-2012, 01:25 AM
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Northumberland Archives have a full run of St George's Gazette - the Northumberland Fusiliers Regimental Paper, bound in volumes.

That might be just as good for the Casey Obit, and you never know might give some info on James Douglass, I'll have a look.

NRO 07549/1/1/1/

1 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1884
2 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1885
3 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1886
4 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1887
5 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1891
6 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1892
7 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1893
8 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1894
9 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1897
10 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1900
11 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1904
12 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1905
13 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1907
14 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1908
15 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1909
16 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1910
17 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1912
18 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1914
19 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1915
20 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1916
21 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1917
22 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1918
23 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1919
24 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1920
25 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1928
26 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1930
27 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1931
28 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1937
29 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1938
30 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1939
31 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1941
32 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1942
33 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1943
34 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1944
35 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1945
36 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1946
37 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1947
38 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1948
39 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1949
40 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1950
41 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1951
42 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1952
43 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1953
44 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1954
45 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1955
46 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1956
47 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1957
48 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1958
49 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1960
50 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1962
51 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1963
52 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1965
53 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1966
54 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1967
55 Volume of St. George's Gazette. 1968


so I'm after NRO 07549/1/1/1/23 (1919) and NRO 07549/1/1/1/36 (1946)


I bet that 1968 volume is rather sad.
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Old 28-11-2012, 08:44 AM
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If it was, as we suspect, the younger one, his grandson and greatgrandsons are still in Amble. I can verify this by the names of his sons on the census.
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Old 28-11-2012, 10:38 AM
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Northumberland Archives have a full run of St George's Gazette - the Northumberland Fusiliers Regimental Paper, bound in volumes.
Are these volumes out on the shelves at Woodhorn, Coquet? I'd like to get in amongst them, might find out something about my grandad's brothers, otherwise lost in the National Archives burnt records.
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Old 28-11-2012, 10:56 AM
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I'm not sure, I found them playing about with Google with the term 'Northumberland Fusiliers' & 'St George's gazette' last night!

I note that the list does have some volume omissions, not complete as I first thought.

How useful will they be? not sure, I have one volume at home, 1906, I'll post some scans.





page a

page b

page c
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Old 28-11-2012, 04:06 PM
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I've had a look at these volumes today and they won't provide much information. MMs are a listed with the same detail as the London Gazette. Some detailed officer obituaries though, but could not find anything for Casey in the 1946 or 47 volumes. I do believe there is a photo of him in the pre WW1 volumes but we will not be allowed to publish it.
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Old 28-11-2012, 05:11 PM
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That's a shame....its Alnwick library and pickled gherkins then
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