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Old 21-02-2017, 05:52 PM
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There is what appears to be part of an old stone tower in a field on the right hand side of the road, just as you pass the last house out of Warkworth on the Morwick Road.
Can anyone enlighten me as to its purpose and history?

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Old 22-02-2017, 08:59 PM
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I've often wondered about that myself.

this thing?:


https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@55.33...8i6656!6m1!1e1
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Old 23-02-2017, 11:38 AM
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Had a look on the side by side map images but can't see anything if I'm in the right place. Are the buildings on the bend Morwick Gate?

http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/sideb...&right=BingHyb
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Old 23-02-2017, 06:14 PM
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Had a look on the side by side map images but can't see anything if I'm in the right place. Are the buildings on the bend Morwick Gate?

http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/sideb...&right=BingHyb

That's the correct place, existing buildings Morwick Gate and Warkworth Cottage are there on the 19c maps, but the ruin? nothing indicated of significance. Does that suggest it was gone before the 1st OS maps?
Nothing mentioned that fits the location on the listed buildings website either.
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Old 23-02-2017, 06:31 PM
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I have consulted the oracle (my dad). His understanding (all allegedly! )was the house was purchased by J G Green builders many years ago, and Mr Green left the front facade standing for planning reasons so that he could ultimately build a house there without going through planning. Greens were dissolved in the late 90s so who owns it now is not clear.
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Old 24-02-2017, 03:24 PM
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Had a look on the side by side map images but can't see anything if I'm in the right place. Are the buildings on the bend Morwick Gate?

http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/sideb...&right=BingHyb
The tower (if that's what it is) is directly opposite the entrance to Warkworth Cottage on the old map. The property on the same side of the road as the tower is called Christian Cottage, I wonder if that's a clue? The old map does seem to shgow something where the tower is but I can't make it out.
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Old 24-02-2017, 03:25 PM
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Old Tower.jpg
This isn what I'm talking about...??

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Old 24-02-2017, 03:27 PM
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I've often wondered about that myself.

this thing?:


https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@55.33...8i6656!6m1!1e1
That's the fella.
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Old 24-02-2017, 05:32 PM
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Just part of the small building that is marked? You get the impression of something old and much more significant from the remaining stonework.
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Unfortunately, that is the front elevation of the previous building as I explained in earlier post.

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Old 24-02-2017, 08:43 PM
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Unfortunately, that is the front elevation of the previous building as I explained in earlier post.
Yes got that, it's probably me not being clear (just for a change )

I also mis-read the more recent map. Is it building No.1 on this 1864 map? Is it Warkworth Cottage then? or is Warkworth Cottage No.2??

Morwick Gate (3) is shown as two buildings either site of the road into Morwick township, literally 'Morwick gate' I suppose.
The others (1,2) are in Warkworth township/civil parish

Those buildings are possibly identifiable on the Census returns. They are on the page near 'Old Barns' farm. There are two more premises in the list on from Old Barns, which looks correct, as Morwick Gate would be on the Morwick return.

I can see on the 1891 census; Warkworth Cottage, occupied by Agnes Mary Buchanan, 56, living on her own means, and her servant Martha Ternent, 18.

and Creston? Cottage occupied by John Potter, 60, Joiner.



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Old 26-03-2017, 03:34 PM
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This is the inscription on the 'knight' in Warkworth Church, for the record:
The effigies of S Hugh of Morwicke who gave the common to this town of Warkworth


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Old 26-03-2017, 03:41 PM
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That's the best photo of the ruin I can get. Must have been a considerable building in its day?



And here's some world famous Morwick baby ice cream cows!
[Was going to have a look at the famous Morwick cup and ring carvings but went for ice cream instead]


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Old 26-03-2017, 06:37 PM
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Hugh de Morwick shield:


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