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Old 26-10-2015, 02:02 PM
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Stumbled across two brothers on the Amble War Memorial one killed in each of the wars.
William James Horn killed in WW1, aged 20. DLI, and David Horn, Merchant Navy, lost at sea in WW2, aged 38.
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Old 26-10-2015, 05:00 PM
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Stumbled across two brothers on the Amble War Memorial one killed in each of the wars.
William James Horn killed in WW1, aged 20. DLI, and David Horn, Merchant Navy, lost at sea in WW2, aged 38.
Never noticed that before.
(Just out of interest next on the WW1 list is the wife's great great uncle, George Horner)
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Old 26-10-2015, 05:08 PM
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Might be you haven't noticed it because there's no info against David Horn.
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Old 26-10-2015, 07:18 PM
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Yes he's blank - which might explain it! Not now though, I've updated it. You might have to refresh the page in your browser to see the change.

Well, it is important progress even if it's just one on that page. 14 WW2 to go?

Is the connection re the brothers in the papers Janwhin?
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Old 27-10-2015, 10:07 AM
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The only piece in the papers is about David Horn losing his life. The link came from CWG.....same parents, same address.
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Old 27-10-2015, 12:58 PM
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Another family involved in WW2, this time a father and son called Hunter of Chevington Crescent.

The son was Herbert Goward Hunter, presumed dead on 12 September 1944 (recorded on the Chevington memorial) and his father William Brown Hunter.

According to the Duke School Book of Remembrance, Herbert, born in 1920, was a keen sportsman, and had a trial at Arsenal. He was an estate worker at Eshott and joined the Territorials when he was 18. He went with the 9th Battalion RNF to France. His father was in the same unit. Herbert was evacuated but his father was captured. A newspaper article about Herbert's younger brother in 1940 stated that the father was a POW in Germany and his brother missing at Narvik.
The Book of Remembrance reports that Herbert went to Singapore and was reported missing 15 Feb 1942. Later he was reported lost at sea on 12 Sept 1944 from a Japanese transport ship en route for Japan. It was torpedoed by the United States Navy.

His father is listed as a prisoner of war at Stalag 344, Lamdorf, Germany. The father would have been about 43 when captured.

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Old 28-10-2015, 01:42 PM
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Another victim of "friendly fire" seems to have been Charles Hall (the Amble Memorial). He was a Lance Bombardier in the RA, missing in Burma in January 1945 and later presumed killed in action at sea 21 January 1945. The assumption being that he was being transported as a prisoner of war by the Japanese.
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Old 28-10-2015, 04:02 PM
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Another victim of "friendly fire" seems to have been Charles Hall (the Amble Memorial). He was a Lance Bombardier in the RA, missing in Burma in January 1945 and later presumed killed in action at sea 21 January 1945. The assumption being that he was being transported as a prisoner of war by the Japanese.

I recall reading an account of a New Zealander on one of the Jap 'Hell Ships'. To say they were horrific would be a gross understatement.
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Old 02-11-2015, 05:52 PM
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The above mentioned book about the experiences of Alistair Urquhart is an excellent read especially his nightmare time on the hell ships.A documentary about him is regularly shown on the Yesterday channel called `WW2s luckiest soldier'.
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Old 27-11-2015, 11:43 PM
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Amble Merchant Navy Men expected to be combatants defending their own ships?
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Old 27-11-2015, 11:44 PM
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Evidence? Anyone?
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Old 28-11-2015, 08:56 AM
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I recall reading an account of a New Zealander on one of the Jap 'Hell Ships'. To say they were horrific would be a gross understatement.
This has sparked off a memory from the 80's when Dad came across an article (probably in the Telegraph) about a family wanting information on a relative that was 'always clutching a bible'. He recalled that when they got torpedoed a similar person 'went down with the ship'. Apparently the article got a few answers in the same vein.
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Old 28-11-2015, 02:01 PM
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The above mentioned book about the experiences of Alistair Urquhart is an excellent read especially his nightmare time on the hell ships.A documentary about him is regularly shown on the Yesterday channel called `WW2s luckiest soldier'.
Alistair's book The Forgotten Highlander is brilliant I agree. He had a hell of a war by the sounds of it. Burma Railway , Japanese hell ship (which got sunk with him on it) and then to cap it all he witnessed the bomb dropping on Nagasaki from a prisoner of war camp where he believed he was due to be executed imminently. Truely amazing guy to have survived it all. The tv documentary is good too.

I also read a book by a guy called Reg Twig (Survivor on The River Kwai) you would love that too if you get the chance to read it.

I can't believe that all the survivors were prohibited from even talking about their experiences after the war. There were quite a few from our area. I remember my granda went on holiday in the late 90's with a group of friends from Amble which included John Shotton who used to live along Wellwood Street. Apparently, they were on the ferry to Holland and for some reason John just opened up and everything came out about his experiences. I think they all just sat in tears and listened while he talked. Even his wife did not know most of it. I can't imagine the horrors they must have faced to make them keep it bottled up for the best part of 50 years.
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Old 04-12-2015, 07:23 PM
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On the subject of books and the war against Japan, but with a local twist, the one to read is 'Where Fate Leads' by Harry Howarth. The book is effectively the story of the 9th Battalion, The Royal Northumberland Fusiliers in WW2.
The 9th Battalion was a duplicate of the 7th, both machine gun battalions and contained many local men. The 9th landed at Singapore a few days before the surrender to the Japanese, most of the book is about the trials of the men in captivity building the Burma railway.

Howarth himself was not a local, he was Lancashire born and joined the Cheshire Regiment at the start of the war -he trained as a machine gunner - then he was transferred to the 9th RNF with a detachment of other trained machine gunners. When they arrived he states the men of the 9th knew nothing about the Vickers machine gun and had not even fired their rifles. So they were effectively the trained core to bring the rest of the battalion up to speed.


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Old 04-12-2015, 07:28 PM
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When I read the book, I understood why Gordon Oliver (ex 9th RNF & one time Waterloo landlord) got a bit err... 'grumpy' when the Japanese were mentioned.
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Old 05-12-2015, 05:36 PM
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Where Fate Leads is ordered and on it's way to my house! Seems to have been quite common that the first time they fired their weapons was at the Japanese!
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Not sure what that is. Could be a locker key if they are at a lido or somewhere like that. It looks like one of those professional holiday snaps taken in some resorts?
It is Lily / Lillian Jobson, lived Ackligton Road with her husband James, he served with the Fleet Air Arm RN WW2 on the escort carrier Ameer, and others.
Re Lily & Jim Jobson, Jim worked in the building trade in Amble after the war (Carse's ?), later becoming a Clerk of Works for (I think) Northumberland County Council. I was at school with their son, also Jim, who I believe at one time was a manager for Pickfords.
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Old 03-01-2016, 08:24 PM
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I have had for 20 years a small pile of documents for the family, intercepted from the bin.







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Old 03-01-2016, 08:32 PM
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Anyway, here's his (James Jobson's) Certificate of service:



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Old 03-01-2016, 08:38 PM
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If there is a descendant out there that cares they can have them.

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