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Scopey 21-02-2017 05:52 PM

Old Tower?
 
There is what appears to be part of an old stone tower in a field on the right hand side of the road, just as you pass the last house out of Warkworth on the Morwick Road.
Can anyone enlighten me as to its purpose and history?

Regards

Coquet 22-02-2017 08:59 PM

I've often wondered about that myself.

this thing?:


https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@55.33...8i6656!6m1!1e1

janwhin 23-02-2017 11:38 AM

Had a look on the side by side map images but can't see anything if I'm in the right place. Are the buildings on the bend Morwick Gate?

http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/sideb...&right=BingHyb

Coquet 23-02-2017 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by janwhin (Post 6871)
Had a look on the side by side map images but can't see anything if I'm in the right place. Are the buildings on the bend Morwick Gate?

http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/sideb...&right=BingHyb


That's the correct place, existing buildings Morwick Gate and Warkworth Cottage are there on the 19c maps, but the ruin? nothing indicated of significance. Does that suggest it was gone before the 1st OS maps?
Nothing mentioned that fits the location on the listed buildings website either.

hollydog 23-02-2017 06:31 PM

I have consulted the oracle (my dad). His understanding (all allegedly! )was the house was purchased by J G Green builders many years ago, and Mr Green left the front facade standing for planning reasons so that he could ultimately build a house there without going through planning. Greens were dissolved in the late 90s so who owns it now is not clear.

Scopey 24-02-2017 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by janwhin (Post 6871)
Had a look on the side by side map images but can't see anything if I'm in the right place. Are the buildings on the bend Morwick Gate?

http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/sideb...&right=BingHyb

The tower (if that's what it is) is directly opposite the entrance to Warkworth Cottage on the old map. The property on the same side of the road as the tower is called Christian Cottage, I wonder if that's a clue? The old map does seem to shgow something where the tower is but I can't make it out.

Scopey 24-02-2017 03:25 PM

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Regards

Scopey 24-02-2017 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Coquet (Post 6870)
I've often wondered about that myself.

this thing?:


https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@55.33...8i6656!6m1!1e1

That's the fella.

Coquet 24-02-2017 05:32 PM

Just part of the small building that is marked? You get the impression of something old and much more significant from the remaining stonework.

hollydog 24-02-2017 06:32 PM

Unfortunately, that is the front elevation of the previous building as I explained in earlier post.

Coquet 24-02-2017 08:43 PM

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Unfortunately, that is the front elevation of the previous building as I explained in earlier post.

Yes got that, it's probably me not being clear (just for a change :o)

I also mis-read the more recent map. Is it building No.1 on this 1864 map? Is it Warkworth Cottage then? or is Warkworth Cottage No.2??

Morwick Gate (3) is shown as two buildings either site of the road into Morwick township, literally 'Morwick gate' I suppose.
The others (1,2) are in Warkworth township/civil parish

Those buildings are possibly identifiable on the Census returns. They are on the page near 'Old Barns' farm. There are two more premises in the list on from Old Barns, which looks correct, as Morwick Gate would be on the Morwick return.

I can see on the 1891 census; Warkworth Cottage, occupied by Agnes Mary Buchanan, 56, living on her own means, and her servant Martha Ternent, 18.

and Creston? Cottage occupied by John Potter, 60, Joiner.



http://www.coquetandcoast.co.uk/imag...th-cottage.jpg

Coquet 24-02-2017 09:03 PM

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The property on the same side of the road as the tower is called Christian Cottage
Just to confuse matters here is 'Christian' 'Buchanan' and 'Warkworth Cottage' all in the same sentence.

Probably requires the Heavy Artillery (Janwhin) on this one.

Deaths, 'Southern Reporter' 16 October 1884

hollydog 24-02-2017 09:53 PM

Looks to be building no1 on the map

Coquet 24-02-2017 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by hollydog (Post 6884)
Looks to be building no1 on the map

And do you think no.1 is 'Warkworth Cottage'? When I look at Janwhin's map 'Warkworth Cottage' appears to be no.2?? . Not clear to me what building 'Warkworth Cottage' as marked on the maps is referring to.

janwhin 24-02-2017 11:50 PM

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Probably requires the Heavy Artillery (Janwhin) on this one.

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That's a bit harsh, although my dad was a gunner in the RA and a face worker for longer than I care to remember :D

janwhin 25-02-2017 11:14 AM

Now here's an interesting thing. I did start to think that Morwick Mill must be close by those structures and then I saw "gate houses" marked on the attached map of 1828 from the Northumberland Communities website
https://communities.northumberland.gov.uk/007369FS.htm

janwhin 25-02-2017 11:21 AM

And another try, Morwick Mill is further on but this later OS map seems to show a structure where we would want this ruin to be

http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/sideb...&right=BingHyb

Coquet 25-02-2017 11:41 AM

Here's some better satellite pics:

http://www.coquetandcoast.co.uk/imag...ar-morwick.jpg

hollydog 25-02-2017 02:17 PM

I know it doesn't help, but, Kathy Secker (ITV NEWS) lived in the cottage on right, over the road from the ruined house!

Coquet 26-03-2017 03:34 PM

This is the inscription on the 'knight' in Warkworth Church, for the record:
The effigies of S Hugh of Morwicke who gave the common to this town of Warkworth


http://www.coquetandcoast.co.uk/imag...de-morwick.jpg


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