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janwhin 31-03-2014 09:43 AM

1939 Register
 
Don't know if anyone has seen this announcement but FindmyPast and the National Archives are working together to release the above Register in the next two years. It is a record of personal information for every individual eligible to receive an identity card and ration book. It was taken by the Government at the outbreak of WW2.

Coquet 31-03-2014 12:31 PM

I spotted the announcement yesterday on the FMP website. Excellent news, I didn't even know it existed.


We might also see the Red Cross records for WW1 online this year as well.

janwhin 03-07-2017 04:36 PM

Crew Lists
 
I was looking on the 1939 register for one of my relatives and discovered that he was on board the Clifton Hall in Amble Harbour. A further look showed all the company boats there and the dredger, so we have the crews of the dredger, the Hauxley, the Bondicar, the Togston, the Chevington, the Amble, plus their normal residences. The Register also lists the internment camp although a lot of the names have been redacted.
What a surprise!

Coquet 04-07-2017 08:51 AM

Pity they cut off most of the second page in their photos of the 1939 register. They had a superb record of the 1939 civil defence volunteers right under their camera and the chose to chop most of it off. Might be plenty of PhDs at the National Archives and the Genealogy companies but they are still generally stupid. :)

[to be fair there is generally just enough text showing to know or guess the entry]

Coquet 16-07-2017 03:19 PM

Trying to sort this 1939 register out. Not sure if there is a way to browse methodically completely through a town/village.

I was going to just put the links in my browser but I know others might have an interest in this for future reference

So... findmypast have the the pages in browsable blocks.. blocks of .. 15/20 pages? we will find out.

Searching 'Amble UD' + 'Northumberland' has allegedly 3,695 results sounds about right??

I just hope the links don't die or anything.

AMBLE

1. 15 pages
Coquet Street, Lawson Street, Station Cott, Station Hotel, George Street, Bridge Street, Turner Street, Back Queen Street, Cross Street, North View, Prospect Terrace, Prospect Place, 5 Wellwood Street (Shop), Church Street, Queen Street, Dock Hotel, Police Station,

2. 20 pages
Newburgh Street, Back Newburgh Street, Percy Street, Back Percy Street, John Street, Windsor Terrace, Ivy Street, Smith Street, Henderson Street, Back Henderson Street, Leazes Street, Back Leazes Street, Broomhill Street, Lime Street, Grean Road,


3. 23 Pages.
Bede Street, Edwin Street, ?????? Road, Northumbria Terrace, Lindisfarne Road, South Avenue, Albert Street, Marks Bridge Cottage, Windmill Cottage, Woodbine Street, Acklington Road, Central Avenue, Oswald Street, Westfield, Moorehouse Farm, Moorhouse Cottages,

4. 19 Pages.
Dilston Terrace, Dovecote Street, Church Street (even?), Byron Street, Middleton Street, Avenue ??, Second Avenue, King Edward Street, Wellwood Street, Northumbria Terrace (odd?)

5. 22 Pages
Sawmills (the Wynd), The Wynd, Victoria Street, Gloster Terrace, High Street, Hallgarth, Gibson Street, Westgarth, Greensfield Terrace, Albert Street (even, mainly), Woodbine Street (odd), Eastgarth Avenue, Bede Street, (odd), Lambs Terrace, Acklington Street, Scott Street, Bisley Road, Newhall Farm, Hope House Farm, Cliffe House Dairy Farm, Dene House Farm,


I think that's the complete 'Amble'. Unless you can see a 1939 street that is not there? ...Woha! Panhaven Road, Gordon Street, Blackwood Terrace/ Street?, Coastguards?? I've a bit missing.

ok....

6. 19 Pages
Ladbroke Street, Cement Houses, Gordon Street, Marine Road, Panhaven Road, Sea View, Blackwood Street, Coastguard Station, Cliffe Houses [sic], Link End Farm, Coast Road, Island View, Cemetery Cottage, Signal Station, Link House Farm, Link House Farm Cottage, North Side, No. 16 Internment Camp, [Harbour shipping, various], Smallpox Isolation Hospital [unoccupied?], Bay View,

GLOSTER HILL

???

Coquet 16-07-2017 04:08 PM

I'll stop adding those now for a bit of testing because I think the links will fail, not sure how their search results work but the URLs all look the same to me. :confused:

This is my original search:

http://search.findmypast.co.uk/resul...rland&_page=26

It is possible that search link might survive and the links will be in sequence (just as the above numbered links) down the page, taking you into each browsable block. Hard to explain but I know what I'm talking about anyway. :D

Coquet 16-07-2017 04:21 PM

Well I've deleted all my cookies and the links still work (after logging in again to FMP of course)

Anyone else with a subscription confirm the links in post #2 take you to browsable blocks of pages? Janwhin wherefore art thou?

janwhin 16-07-2017 05:20 PM

Links work for me and I can scroll through the pages :)

Coquet 16-07-2017 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by janwhin (Post 7010)
Links work for me and I can scroll through the pages :)

Excellent. Continuing to work for me too. I'll see if I can find the Chevington group later tonight.

Coquet 16-07-2017 11:20 PM

Everything else seems to be divided between Alnwick RD and Morpeth RD.

RADCLIFFE AND HAUXLEY

In Alnwick RD is Radcliffe & Hauxley:

1. 23 Pages [Radcliffe]
Dansfield Place, The Cottage, Stable Row, Radcliffe House, Long Row North, Long Row South, Cross Row East, Cross Row East, CWS Manager's House, Newburgh Row, Centre Row, Leslie Row, Radcliffe Arms, New Buildings, Glendale House, Hawthorne House, East View.

Cannot get any hit for 'Hauxley' even searching district or street. Stumbled across it anyway looking through a list of Alnwick RD.

2. 8 Pages [A few more Radcliffe & Hauxley]
Ivy Cottage, Workmen's Club, Prospect House, Longstaffs Buildings, Togston View, Grange House, Front House, Pretoria Cottage, Hauxley Crossing Cottage, Kirkwell Buildings, Kirkwell Cottages, Woodbine Cottage Hauxley, High Hauxley, Hauxley Farm, Hauxley Hall, Hauxley Hall Cott, The Moorings, Hauxley Cottage, The Cottage, Old School House, Rocket House, Sea View Cottage, Hauxley Links, Bondicar Farm, Bondicar Farm Cottage, [+ small number of addresses for Newburgh Row, Cross Row East and West, Long Row North and South]

[See Togston and North Broomhill '1.' for Sea View Newburgh]

Coquet 16-07-2017 11:58 PM

TOGSTON AND NORTH BROOMHILL

1. 16 Pages [last two pages of this set are Morwick]
Togston Crescent, Togston Terrace, Queen Street, Gordon Terrace, East View, Coxon Terrace, Forge Cottages, Chapel Row, Togston Road, Togston Social Club House, South Togston, Railway Crossing Cottage, Togston Barns, Togston Barns Field Cottage, Barns Farm House, Togston East Farm House, East Farm Cottages, Togston Low Hall, Low Hall Cottage[s], Sea View Newburgh, The Lodge North Togston, North Togston Cottage, North Togston, Togston Hall (North), Togston Hall Farm House, Togston Hall, Cottages



WEST CHEVINGTON
1. 8 pages [Includes Bullocks Hall]
Chevington Crescent, Bullocks Hall Farm, Sandorn House, South View, West Chevington Farm, West Chevington Farm Cottages, Isolation Hospital, Station House, Railway Cottages, Chevington Moor Farm, Amble Junction, The Junction, Chevington Wood, Maidens Hall Farm

Coquet 17-07-2017 10:02 AM

...Interlude

Janwhin has done an extraction of 1939 boat crews

and I've made a start on civil ARP / military (not home guard) war related.

Any extra information is added as a note in a 'tooltip' - that's a little pop-up note which opens when you mouse over a surname that has a dotted line under.


I can also add I'll never finish my page without transcription volunteers. :D

Coquet 17-07-2017 10:43 AM

Regarding Janwhin's list. You can find photos of some of these chaps on their merchant navy cards on FMP:

This is Bosun Oreste Poggi, born Naples Italy 1884. (On the Hauxley 1939, address 52 Newburgh Street.)

hollydog 17-07-2017 07:34 PM

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Can you check Northumbria Terrace or South Av for J G H Young please. My grandad s WW2 Police equipment. P to put over the car head light, helmet, gas mask and fuel coupons on attached photo

Coquet 17-07-2017 08:42 PM

yes he's there:

16 Northumbria Terrace. YOUNG John G.H. Born 11 Apr. 1905. Married. Master Painter and Decorator, Own Account. Special Constable.

Coquet 17-07-2017 08:48 PM

Also at the address Beulah, Frances and 'Baby' Later changed to 'John Rowell' b. 1939.

Last two entries should be redacted. Their redactions are such a hodgepodge mess I don't know why they bothered.

janwhin 17-07-2017 10:08 PM

Nice photograph Hollydog. It all looks in really good condition. Something else for Coquet's museum perhaps :D

Coquet 17-07-2017 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by janwhin (Post 7023)
Nice photograph Hollydog. It all looks in really good condition. Something else for Coquet's museum perhaps :D

Yes priceless objects for the museum with provenance like that. In the 'Amble Home Front' cabinet they go. :)

Coquet 17-07-2017 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by janwhin (Post 6992)
The Register also lists the internment camp although a lot of the names have been redacted.
What a surprise!

No. 16 Internment Camp. I assume this is the first wartime use for the Lord Mayor's Holiday Camp? Left unredacted are female civilians, 'Army Officers Mess' Cook and Waitress, and a male, Samuel Blackbourn, Foreman of Works, War Dept.

Amble's own Concentration Camp.

If this was for enemy aliens I do hope they didn't chuck Bosun Poggi in there.

Coquet 19-07-2017 10:47 PM

CHEVINGTON DRIFT

25 inch map 1921

9 Pages
Hartside Terrace, Linhope Terrace, Farm Cottages, Miners Homes, East Chevington Farm, Simsonside Terrace

Coquet 19-07-2017 11:42 PM

NORTH BROOMHILL, SOUTH BROOMHILL, HADSTONE, WOODSIDE

25 inch Maps
South Broomhill 1921
Togston North Broomhill 1921

24 pages

High Coldriffe, Hadstone Link House, Link House Red Row, Hadstone South Broomhill, Hadstone Farm Cottages, Hadstone Farm Broomhill, Woodside Dairy Red Row, Woodside Red Row, Royal Air Force Aerodrome, Broomhill Farm Broomhill, Broomhill Farm Cottages, Cross Row Broomhill, Post Office S. Broomhill, Hadstone Row Broomhill, Middle Row S.Broomhill, North Row South Broomhill, Young's Blds Broomhill, Bungalow S. Broomhill, Cooperative Cottage South Broomhill, Central House Broomhill, Equitable House Broomhill, The Hostel Broomhill School, School House Broomhill, Bethel Cottage Broomhill, Sea View Broomhill, Barties Town Broomhill, Coronation Terrace, Pasture House Broomhill, Manor House Broomhill, Reading? Cottage Broomhill, Office Hse Broomhill, West View Broomhill, ?????ton Hse Broomhill, Warkworth Ter Broomhill, Eage? Hill (Mill?) Broomhill, Station Hotel Broomhill, Station Road Broomhill, Turnbull's Bla Broomhill, Park View Broomhill, Police Station Broomhill, Stone Row Broomhill, Six Cottages Broomhill, School Row Broomhill, Railway Row N. Broomhill, Felstead? North Broomhill, Store Cottages Broomhill, Bee Hive Cottage Broomhill, Store House Broomhill, Co-operative Blds Broomhill, Towns?? Crossing Broomhill,

Coquet 20-07-2017 12:05 AM

RED ROW

25 inch map
Red Row 1921

23 Pages
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bailbob 21-07-2017 06:27 PM

I am interested to know that you have the record for the Ships of the Harbour. I am interested as my father George William Bailes was the engineer on the dredger and he does not appear with the rest of his family on the register. Can you point me to the record. Thanks , Bob Bailes rkbailes@talktalk.net

Coquet 21-07-2017 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bailbob (Post 7039)
I am interested to know that you have the record for the Ships of the Harbour. I am interested as my father George William Bailes was the engineer on the dredger and he does not appear with the rest of his family on the register. Can you point me to the record. Thanks , Bob Bailes rkbailes@talktalk.net

The Merchant Navy men are concentrated across two pages, 16 and 17 in this set of 19 pages. Ships and most home addresses noted. I assume these men are on their ships on the day the register was drawn up. Other crew members appear to be at their home addresses. William Smith is the only one without his home address noted.

Gordon 09-05-2018 06:07 PM

Now on Ancestry!

lisamariepri 24-06-2018 06:38 PM

Hi, Just seen your message about my great great grandad Oreste Poggi; I can confirm he wasn't send to a concentration camp and was a British citizen at the time :)

Coquet 24-06-2018 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lisamariepri (Post 7460)
Hi, Just seen your message about my great great grandad Oreste Poggi; I can confirm he wasn't send to a concentration camp and was a British citizen at the time :)

I'm really glad to hear it! He probably sailed the colliers with my grandfather and great grandfather on occasions.

lisamariepri 27-06-2018 09:40 AM

there's a possibility, what was your grandads / great grandads name?

bit random but i have a photo of my gt gt grandad with a bunch of unknown people not sure if you were interested in having a look and seeing if you recognize anyone?

Coquet 28-06-2018 08:00 PM

Yes I'd love to see the photo. my ancestors on the boats were Ned Young (grandfather), his brother Tom, and Joe Henderson (g-grandfather)

Coquet 28-06-2018 08:19 PM

Eric Simonsen's book 'Warkworth Harbour' has a group photo with your ancestor (was he known as Harry Poggi?) Ship is SS Hauxley, the year 1939.

The photo has : Harry Poggi, Bosun; Jimmy Grey, Messroom Steward; Pop Buttle, A.B.; Myry Smithsman, A.B.; Frank Anderson, A.B.; Fred Graham, Cook Steward; George Buckley A.B.; Frank Flannigan A.B.

Coquet 28-06-2018 08:40 PM

More Maritime Types
 
A little off topic but here's another one of mine a few of the Amble seniors will remember, great uncle Dobson Young, AKA 'Dop', brother of Ned and Tom mentioned above. Lived High Street, married Nellie Pringle. Bit of a bad boy in his youth, got in to bother and sent to a training ship for correction and discipline. Took to it like a fish to water and had a career at sea, became a ship's Purser.


https://www.coquetandcoast.co.uk/ima...bson-young.jpg

lisamariepri 29-06-2018 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coquet (Post 7482)
Eric Simonsen's book 'Warkworth Harbour' has a group photo with your ancestor (was he known as Harry Poggi?) Ship is SS Hauxley, the year 1939.

The photo has : Harry Poggi, Bosun; Jimmy Grey, Messroom Steward; Pop Buttle, A.B.; Myry Smithsman, A.B.; Frank Anderson, A.B.; Fred Graham, Cook Steward; George Buckley A.B.; Frank Flannigan A.B.

wow! i never knew that; i had a quick search and cant seem to find the book any idea where to find a copy?
Thank you

lisamariepri 29-06-2018 05:19 PM

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One of the old pictures I have

middle back row: Oreste Poggi
Im not sure who the other people are :)

Attachment 817


**Please do not share this photo on any other site without my permission. Thank you!**

Alan J. 30-06-2018 06:40 AM

I remember Mr Poggi, we lived in Windsor Terrace when first married, 1964/72 and he lived there too, about the middle of the street. He was an old man then, walking with a stick but was always friendly and pleasant.

lisamariepri 02-07-2018 10:10 PM

so glad to hear that :) I cant believe you remember him!

jumpy shore 04-07-2018 12:32 PM

Mr Poggi seems to have been a well know character, he is well remembered by my Dad as 'Pop' Poggi and always eager for conversation on local news. Ronnie and Harry his sons are well known too, Did they have Pubs in the Durham area?

lisamariepri 06-07-2018 08:36 PM

he passed away over 50 years ago so to know people still remember him is really nice.
The poggi boys did own a pub apparently it was called the coach and horses.

any idea where i can get a copy of the book mentioned above with a pic of him in?

MickW 14-03-2024 04:52 PM

Pasture House
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Coquet (Post 7035)
NORTH BROOMHILL, SOUTH BROOMHILL, HADSTONE, WOODSIDE

25 inch Maps
South Broomhill 1921
Togston North Broomhill 1921

24 pages

High Coldriffe, Hadstone Link House, Link House Red Row, Hadstone South Broomhill, Hadstone Farm Cottages, Hadstone Farm Broomhill, Woodside Dairy Red Row, Woodside Red Row, Royal Air Force Aerodrome, Broomhill Farm Broomhill, Broomhill Farm Cottages, Cross Row Broomhill, Post Office S. Broomhill, Hadstone Row Broomhill, Middle Row S.Broomhill, North Row South Broomhill, Young's Blds Broomhill, Bungalow S. Broomhill, Cooperative Cottage South Broomhill, Central House Broomhill, Equitable House Broomhill, The Hostel Broomhill School, School House Broomhill, Bethel Cottage Broomhill, Sea View Broomhill, Barties Town Broomhill, Coronation Terrace, Pasture House Broomhill, Manor House Broomhill, Reading? Cottage Broomhill, Office Hse Broomhill, West View Broomhill, ?????ton Hse Broomhill, Warkworth Ter Broomhill, Eage? Hill (Mill?) Broomhill, Station Hotel Broomhill, Station Road Broomhill, Turnbull's Bla Broomhill, Park View Broomhill, Police Station Broomhill, Stone Row Broomhill, Six Cottages Broomhill, School Row Broomhill, Railway Row N. Broomhill, Felstead? North Broomhill, Store Cottages Broomhill, Bee Hive Cottage Broomhill, Store House Broomhill, Co-operative Blds Broomhill, Towns?? Crossing Broomhill,

Pasture House is on this list but I couldn’t find it on the map- any idea where it is? Thanks.


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