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Coquet 10-12-2017 06:53 PM

Butts at Warkworth
 
A fairly common card from the Monarch series of the Butts at Warkworth.
Noticed the tipping of material, rubbish by the look of it, on the river bank.
That area of river bank is much wider now? full of old bottles? :)


http://www.coquetandcoast.co.uk/imag...-warkworth.jpg


http://www.coquetandcoast.co.uk/imag...arkworth-2.jpg

janwhin 11-12-2017 09:23 AM

Trying to get my bearings on these Coquet. So I'm looking at the road before it turns up past the Sun? The houses in the back are running down Castle Hill with the burgage plots behind?

Coquet 11-12-2017 03:29 PM

Yes that's the place. Brown's Green's yard is absent just a stand of trees on the left. (now new houses)

think the photographer must be about here:


http://www.coquetandcoast.co.uk/images/butts-helsay.jpg

Alan J. 11-12-2017 03:42 PM

Greens Yard Coquet, they were established in the 1700's but not much sign of the yard as we knew it.

Coquet 11-12-2017 05:35 PM

Yes memory 'colour' failure there. (now corrected). Wow, That's an old company, and not that long gone?. They have been mentioned a few times in newspaper extracts on here I think.

Coquet 31-12-2017 03:02 PM

I guess this one is a bit further along. Church in the middle I think.
Wonder if there are one or two more old cards to get us up to the bridge?

http://www.coquetandcoast.co.uk/images/butts-2.jpg

http://www.coquetandcoast.co.uk/images/butts-3.jpg

hollydog 31-12-2017 06:16 PM

The house in the gap behind the church was badly damaged by a bomb in WW2.
Looking at NE war diary, the likely date was also quite a lively night round here,
Saturday, 10th/Sunday, 11th August 1940 N343

02.00.. Northumberland.. One HE on Warkworth School. Two HEs 140 yards east of Warkworth Bridge.

Northumberland.. Fifteen HEs in fields between Togston Hall and Gilden Bridge.

Northumberland.. Two HEs at Helsey Point, north of Alnwick.

Morph 31-12-2017 06:43 PM

Does anyone know if the wall running along the river at the top of the bank was removed at some point and why? It looks like it is in the same place as the new flood defence which they had to build, presumably because the earlier wall was removed! That's progress.

hollydog 31-12-2017 07:37 PM

That part of wall in the enlarged photo especially is slightly higher than the rest of the Butts, the church and houses towards the bridge didn't flood in 2008. Presumably that was the reason it was taken away and a car park built infront of the church etc a long time ago. There is no wall in the photo at the start of the thread and that area beneath the Sun Hotel bore the brunt of the flooding in 2008.

Coquet 01-01-2018 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hollydog (Post 7177)
The house in the gap behind the church was badly damaged by a bomb in WW2.
Looking at NE war diary, the likely date was also quite a lively night round here,
Saturday, 10th/Sunday, 11th August 1940 N343

02.00.. Northumberland.. One HE on Warkworth School. Two HEs 140 yards east of Warkworth Bridge.

Northumberland.. Fifteen HEs in fields between Togston Hall and Gilden Bridge.

Northumberland.. Two HEs at Helsey Point, north of Alnwick.

I wonder if that was the same same time as the bombs that landed in the estuary / Helsay? Mentioned on here previously at some time but I can't find it.

Coquet 01-01-2018 03:45 PM

here's the image series completed 'til we find the old pictures.:D Had a walk along there today. Just needed a chainsaw to improve the view.


http://www.coquetandcoast.co.uk/images/butts-3a.jpg


http://www.coquetandcoast.co.uk/images/butts-4.jpg

hollydog 01-01-2018 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coquet (Post 7180)
I wonder if that was the same same time as the bombs that landed in the estuary / Helsay? Mentioned on here previously at some time but I can't find it.

In the extrract quoted earlier -

Northumberland.. Two HEs at Helsey Point, north of Alnwick,

I wonder if the the north of Alnwick should be Amble, I only know the one Helsay Point !

Coquet 01-01-2018 05:36 PM

yes same:

http://www.coquetandcoast.co.uk/ambl...read.php?t=324

Coquet 01-01-2018 05:42 PM

You could draw now a line on the map between the house at the Butts and the riverbank at Helsay and go hunting UXBs. :eek:

Coquet 01-01-2018 08:20 PM

Any whoo.. after taking those photos today I spun around 180 and photographed the field opposite, telling the daughter 'this is the Warkworth Hangman's Acre' . But.. looking at the map its actually the small field next to it.
So we don't have a photo of Hangman's Acre.

Were people actually hung up there or is it just a name? :)


http://www.coquetandcoast.co.uk/imag...gmans-acre.jpg

http://www.coquetandcoast.co.uk/imag...s-acre-map.jpg

jumpy shore 02-01-2018 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coquet (Post 7187)
Any whoo.. after taking those photos today I spun around 180 and photographed the field opposite, telling the daughter 'this is the Warkworth Hangman's Acre' . But.. looking at the map its actually the small field next to it.
So we don't have a photo of Hangman's Acre.

Were people actually hung up there or is it just a name? :)


http://www.coquetandcoast.co.uk/imag...gmans-acre.jpg

http://www.coquetandcoast.co.uk/imag...s-acre-map.jpg

Or could it be the acre belonging to the hangman....?

Coquet 03-01-2018 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jumpy shore (Post 7190)
Or could it be the acre belonging to the hangman....?

I can't find any reference to it in Hodgson's. On the 1897 map the marked antiquities for Warkworth are:

Moat
Keep
Castle
Chantry (site of)
Bridge
Tower (at bridge)
Hangman's Acre

All straightforward but the last?

The medieval village 'Newtown' was close, at the other side of the beach road.

janwhin 03-01-2018 12:44 PM

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Here's another couple of old postcards for the set!

Coquet 03-01-2018 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by janwhin (Post 7192)
Here's another couple of old postcards for the set!

nice. :)

hollydog 03-01-2018 06:47 PM

Interesting how low the water is at the Stanners. The weir along the main road must hold back water that far up the river as it isn't as shallow as that at low tide now


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