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Old 06-11-2015, 07:44 PM
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That's good news.

Another thing, how do you share you're tree with others? There is a option of private of public tree - I chose public but this disables living relatives.


I was sure I made mine private but it went public. Probably something I did.


For sharing your tree on findmypast (with other members) you just send the person the URL out of the address bar of your browser.
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Old 06-11-2015, 07:53 PM
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and can I have a (free!) GED programme permanently installed on my computer to view my downloaded tree?
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Old 06-11-2015, 08:35 PM
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There are a number of programs to download online Gordon, but which hosting website is safe? virus free? Janwhin might know of one that is recommended by the genealogy community?
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Old 06-11-2015, 09:09 PM
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My goodness, I go out to the pub for five minutes and while my back's turned we're off on the track of Gedcom downloads and family trees.

Personally, I now do most of my family history stuff on Ancestry. FindmyPast has dumbed down so much it is hardly worth using. All my family trees are private and I invite people to the various trees. It works pretty well and I now have some storming extended family and contacts around the world.

What I have started thinking about, rather late in the day, is back up for these trees. This is especially so now that Ancestry is trailing a new layout which I don't like at all. I am now considering which package to use and there are a few. Family Tree Maker is compatible with Ancestry but apparently Family Historian is supposed to be the dogs b.......

Decisions, decisions.
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Old 06-11-2015, 09:55 PM
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I once had a pay as you go account with findmypast now expired. I started a tree a good few years ago and was surprised to find that my records and tree are still there and my account is classed as a "free account" I just need to start paying again to look at records but the tree is accesible as are previous paid for records. So it seems after your money expires on FMP the account stays.
Daughter started adding to the tree from other sources and it crossed my mind about backing up. It is possible to download FMP tree as a gedcom file which I do as a backup.
Last week I did some research on free accounts and downloaded Gramps. It imported the gedcom file ok but its awful to use, not as slick as the paid sites but at least I now have a backup!
I will continue the FMP tree and periodically do a backup for insurance.
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Old 06-11-2015, 10:01 PM
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What I have started thinking about, rather late in the day, is back up for these trees.

Decisions, decisions.
I'm just starting out with findmypast but have seen and used the option of downloading the tree to my HD but like i have said it is in GED format.
I have got most ..(all) of my new info by just Google searching.
My latest newly found relative mentions Ancestors.com which seems to be an American site.
I asked the question in the first place because the a site i had come across had lots of matches for the people I was looking for but have been on so many have lost track!
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Old 06-11-2015, 10:10 PM
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I'm new to it but free software is out there for gedcom files as I said I tried Gramps.
Ancestors.com is American, Find my past is british apart from that sorry I can't help anymore!
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Old 06-11-2015, 10:23 PM
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Daft thing is I upgraded my membership to world or whatever but NONE of the foreign (Canada or Australia) relatives have hits, only the British ones, even though I have put them as dead in their relative countries, infact the only hits for any of them were for in England which were wrong.

Thanks to everybody for their input.
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Old 06-11-2015, 11:05 PM
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My latest newly found relative mentions Ancestors.com which seems to be an American site.
I asked the question in the first place because the a site i had come across had lots of matches for the people I was looking for but have been on so many have lost track!
You need to use Ancestry.co.uk not Ancestry.com.
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Old 07-11-2015, 01:11 PM
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FindmyPast has dumbed down so much it is hardly worth using.

I can imagine that making the 1939 records chargeable for existing subscribers has upset a few as well. I would have thought it would have been a serious boost to their annual subscriptions if it had been included free. But, I'm sure they did their market research and are on the route to maximise profits from it.


I wonder who owns the 1939 images? If it is the National Archives then it might be sold to ancestry as well at some point, once the agreement with findmypast expires?
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Old 07-11-2015, 10:32 PM
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Now that the genie is out the bottle, I need some assistance from you coal miners. The 1939 register has my dad listed as a datal hand miner. Now what was that?

BTW I now have portions of Cross Row, Broomhill, Albert Street and South Avenue Amble.
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Old 07-11-2015, 11:55 PM
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An underground worker, paid by the day was listed as a datal: Durham Mining Museum page.
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Old 08-11-2015, 01:13 PM
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A very common reference heard everyday at the pit, but the precise meaning of I never gave much thought. I always assumed it meant the labour not allocated a specialist daily job - Although in practice datals ended up being sent back to the same place day after day. The majority in my day would be what we called "on the buttons" which were effectively transfer point attendants, that is someone that spent their day where one conveyor discharged onto another. Even when conveyors were 'sequenced'* automatically they still had transfer attendants for cleaning up spillage etc.

*a sequenced conveyor would have devices that detected if the conveyor it was loading onto was running or not and stop or start automatically as required.
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Old 08-11-2015, 02:05 PM
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A datal worker was basically anyone who was not on piecework, that is paid by the amount of work you did. Another name given was shiftworker, paid so much per shift. The pieceworkers were those who worked on the coalface generally and either produced the coal or were involved in process of production.
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Old 08-11-2015, 03:22 PM
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What about the miriad of underground specialists; rollywaymen, loco drivers, pipemen, ropemen, timber lads etc, do they all come under datal? What about us, electricians and fitters?

Piecework had changed by my time, productivity bonus was paid to faceworkers for number of shears, or advance of the face for a production unit. Headings by metres advance. Then those closely associated with the face got 100% same as the faceworkers (me!). Outbye of the face, i.e. timber lads for the face 60% or some percentage. Backbye not allocated to a face a percentage of the colliery average ... it went on and on complex and lots of bickering about bonus!
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Old 08-11-2015, 08:35 PM
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A datal worker was basically anyone who was not on piecework, that is paid by the amount of work you did. Another name given was shiftworker, paid so much per shift. The pieceworkers were those who worked on the coalface generally and either produced the coal or were involved in process of production.
Thanks Alan, all I know is that my dad always did shift work and was a face worker. I think he could handle the explosives as well. Of course, when he started with his dad and brother they were on a contract and worked as a team.
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Old 08-11-2015, 08:43 PM
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Another thing to note with the Register, apart from the fact that they haven't redacted all of the closed records is that there are notes beside those people who became ARP wardens or reserve police force members. A friend's grandfather is on the same page as my granddad, he used to be the police inspector in Amble and then, according to the Register, became a bank guard. He is noted as being 1st Police Reserve, County Police.
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Old 13-11-2015, 05:27 PM
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Another interesting thing you can find with the 1939 Register and without parting with more money.......you can search by address. So, for example, I put in South Avenue in Amble which gives you one line with a link called "addresses". Click on this to give you all of the houses there. Click on "preview" for each of the houses and you get the names of the households and the head.
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Old 21-11-2015, 10:01 AM
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Findmypast have added the freemasonry registers (to 1921), which includes the Lord Warkworth Lodge. I think this was online somewhere already?


http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/...il+-+Campaigns
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Old 17-12-2015, 09:02 PM
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Default William Percy Bell

...this seems like a good place for this....
I’m trying to confirm a link between William Percy Bell, the husband of my Great Aunt, Elizabeth Ann Smailes and a William Percy Bell from Byker, son of Edward Bell(1852) the landlord of The Byker Tavern in 1880’s who had 4 children W.P.Bell, Margaret NOBLE Bell, Jacob Coxon Bell & Isabella Bell.
Jacob Coxon Bell emigrated to Canada and inlisted but was killed in France, he has a next of kin as his sister Isabella Winter ‘nee Bell living in Amble (1901 Middleton St) (1911 Acklington Rd) who has a child called Agnes NOBLE Winter(1903)
My G Aunt & W.P.Bell living in Canada named one of their 12 children Alfred NOBLE Bell but I haven’t found out where the ‘Noble’ comes from.
The Smailes lived in Byker prior to 1901 when they were living in Stanners as I have mentioned in other posts.
William Percy seems to have come back from Canada in 1905 to get himself a wife – my Great Aunt aged 18 when W.P Bell was 30, it doesn’t seem to improbable that they knew each other’s families, do you think the W.P Bells are one and the same.?are the Winters still in Amble?
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