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Old 03-01-2013, 05:27 PM
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Talking about wrecks, incase anyone is interested! a short video from Lyme Bay - the last resting place of the Broomhill, the two crewmen killed (from South Wales and tragically brothers) are buried at Portland.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnXhRsfAodI

http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/fo...owtopic=147661
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Old 07-01-2013, 07:47 PM
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The sea has uncovered the engine room of a ship in the low water area about 1/4 mile north of Birling Carrs caravan site (not to be confused with the engine room left in situ of the Hanseat by Warkworth golf course) Does anyone know anything about it?, I looked up 3 suspects - Spey, Lafonia and Moto but they have coordinates too far out in Alnmouth bay. My father thinks it is the stern of the bow section that stood on Alnmouth rocks for years but can't remember the name. Judging by the size , smaller than the Hanseat, it was possibly a fishing boat?

Will it be visible on a normal tide Hollydog? or do you need a spring tide to see it? I'm thinking about a walk and a photo for the record. It's quite a nice stroll over there as well.
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Old 07-01-2013, 08:34 PM
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Normal low tide should be fine if the sand has not covered it back up. Its about 300yds north of the rocks. On the other side, there has been quite a lot of land slippage and erosion upto the Killiecrankie burn. Found some interesting bottles coming out of the dunes!
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Old 08-01-2013, 10:45 AM
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spotted it on google earth:

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Does it get you out of a walk in the sunshine, (yes it's coming), I don't think so
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Old 08-01-2013, 02:26 PM
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yes I'll do it. duty bound, dragging heels, head bowed into the icy northern blast and off to the ancient wreck site we go. (well sometime in the next week anyway )
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The sea has uncovered the engine room of a ship in the low water area about 1/4 mile north of Birling Carrs caravan site (not to be confused with the engine room left in situ of the Hanseat by Warkworth golf course) Does anyone know anything about it?, I looked up 3 suspects - Spey, Lafonia and Moto but they have coordinates too far out in Alnmouth bay. My father thinks it is the stern of the bow section that stood on Alnmouth rocks for years but can't remember the name. Judging by the size , smaller than the Hanseat, it was possibly a fishing boat?
I happened to walk past a day or so ago. Here's what it looks like.

The outline of the stern portion of the hull is also showing through...really not very broad of beam at all. Small trawler or maybe steam pinnace? It'd be good to know more if possible.

I'm now only an annual visitor to your shores and found the forum when looking for the story of the wreck. Excellent stuff - I'll have a proper browse later!

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Old 21-04-2014, 09:54 AM
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I was looking at another ships boiler up the coast a bit at Howick on Saturday:

It's a biggie

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Old 21-04-2014, 10:06 AM
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The Howick boiler is from the French trawler "Tadorne" which was on its way to Iceland with a crew 30. 5 died, the rest rescued by the Boulmer lifeboat. (29th March 1913)


There's more of the wreck broken up in up to 8 metres off the rocks on a sandy bottom, allegedly.



FIVE LIVES LOST IN WRECK OF A TRAWLER.
In a dense fog off the Northumberland coast on Saturday the French trawler " Tadorne," of Boulogne, went ashore off Howick, and it is feared she will become a total wreck. Twenty five of the crew were saved by the local lifeboat, but five lives were lost, all the bodies being recovered. The vessel was bound for Iceland fishing.
Soon after the " Tadorne " struck the rocket brigade threw a line on to the vessel, but apparently, through cold and exposure, the crew were unable to make it fast. Some of the men attempted to swim shore, but only one succeeded. They were drowned, and two lashed to the rigging perished trough cold and exposure.
The remaining hands were taken off by the Boulmer lifeboat, to summon which Earl Grey despatched a messenger in his motor-car. His Lordship gave the shipwrecked men substantial relief.




April 1914:

BOULMER LIFEBOATMEN.
Bravery Recognised by the French Government.
The French Government have awarded a gold medal to the coxswain of the Boulmer lifeboat, and money grants to the crew, in recognition of their bravery at the wreck of the French trawler Tadorne, of Boulogne, on the North Northumberland coast on March 29, last year, when the captain and many of the crew of the Tadorne were gallantly rescued during a very critical time. Baron de Balabre, French Consul at Newcastle, is to publicly present the awards on behalf of the French Government.



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Old 18-12-2014, 05:11 PM
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Came across this event off the Coquet while looking for stragglers for the 1915 WW1 casualty page. :

published 15th May 1915, Alnwick Gazette.

Submarine off the Northumbrian Coast.

TWO TRADERS AND A TRAWLER SUNK.

Two steamers were sunk by a German submarine off the Northumbrian coast during the early hours of Saturday morning — namely the Don, of Goole, owned by the Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway Company, and the Queen Wilhelmina, of Sunderland, owned by Messrs. Furness, Withy, and Company Limited, of West Hartlepool. The former vessel was commanded by Captain Aaron, carrying a crew of 16 hands, and was in ballast, bound for Cromarthy to Blyth. The Queen Wilhelmina, commanded by Captain Dickinson, carried 34 hands, and was also in ballast, being bound for Fowey from Leith.
It was about 5 miles E.N.E. off Coquet Island, at 3.50 am, that the Don was attacked. The torpedo was fired from the submarine without any previous warning, but, fortunately, it missed its mark. The crew hastily launched two boats and left their ship. Another torpedo was directed at the vessel, and this time no mistake was made, a huge hole being torn in her side, which caused her to sink in about 10 minutes. The escaping crew were exposed to a shower of splintered ironwork and wreckage after the explosion, they being only a few boat’s lengths away when the torpedo struck the Don, and 3 of them — namely the second mate, chief engineer, and an able seaman were cut rather badly about the head and body. Later the shipwrecked men fell in with the Norwegian steamer Elizabeth Maersk, which took them to the Tyne. Upon reaching North Shields the three wounded men were taken to the Tynemouth Victoria Jubilee Infirmary.
The destruction of the Don was witnessed from the decks of the Queen Wilhelmina, then about a mile and a half away, and an attempt was made to escape from the German vessel. This proved unsuccessful, however, and the submarine steadily overhauled the steamer, and commenced shelling her with shrapnel. After a chase of about three quarters of an hour, Captain Dickinson “gave up,” and the submarine came alongside and ordered the crew out of the ship. Two boats were launched and the crew left. The Germans then discharged two torpedoes at the Queen Wilhelmina, besides firing several shells and to her.
When the crew last saw the Queen Wilhelmina, just before the mist hid her from view, she was very low down in the water and listing heavily. A patrol boat picked up Captain Dickinson and his men, and subsequently landed them at North Shields.
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Old 18-12-2014, 05:15 PM
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Interesting thing about the Queen Wilhelmina is that she was beached at Bondicar, which makes you think: was she trying to get into Amble with a German sub chasing her???. If it was torpedoed and sinking it couldn't have been too far away from here to end up on Bondicar? High Drama in the Coquet Roads?


http://www.wrecksite.eu/wreck.aspx?13392

http://uboat.net/wwi/ships_hit/4981.html
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Old 18-12-2014, 08:03 PM
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Another article written about the same time discussing the looting and 'piracy' of the German submarine crews includes more information on the Queen Wilhelmina, and how it managed to make it to bondicar:

Dundee, Perth, Forfar, and Fife's People's Journal 15 May 1915


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Twice Torpedoed.
The procedure of the pirated differs. One Captain had a remnant of humanity — even courtesy — left in him; another has not. Sometimes warning is given; just as often there is none. One of the vessels which was fired upon and sunk without previous intimation was a Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway Company’s steamer Don, which was bound from Cromarty to Blyth.
The Don was attacked off Coquet Island, on the Northumberland coast, early in the morning. One torpedo missed, but the second was so effective that the vessel sank in 10 minutes. The crew of 16 were picked up by a Danish steamer, and landed at Blyth. The 2nd mate, the chief engineer, and a seaman were injured by flying splinters.
The same spot proved fatal to the steamer Queen Wilhelmina, owned by a Newcastle firm. The members of the crew, who reside in Leith, reported on their return home that the vessel was twice torpedoed by a German submarine.
Splinters Thrown Sky High.
At 3:30 in the morning they sighted the hostile craft about 3 miles astern, coming straight for her. The engines will put full steam ahead, but though the steamer was doing 12 knots, the submarine steadily overhauled her. The crew got on lifebelts, and got the small boats ready for launching.

When within three hundred yards the submarine fired two gunshots, neither of which took effect. At a hundred yards distance, another shot was fired, striking the steamer’s funnel. The crew took what cover was afforded them by the wheelhouse and the captain blew his whistle as a signal to stop fire as the steamer was alight.
Cessation of the steamer’s propeller was noticeable, and all hands got into the small boats and rowed clear. By this time the submarine had manoeuvred into position to fire a torpedo, which she dated a range of about two hundred feet. The Queen Wilhelmina was struck amidship on the starboard side, and coal from the deck was thrown sky high.

Took charts of British Coast.
The commander of the submarine waved to one of the boats to come alongside. This order was obeyed and the commander, who spoke English fluently told some of the occupants of the boat to board the submarine. Eight men jumped aboard and the commander told the rest to remain in the boat. A submarine officer then sprang into the boat and made the men take him and the Captain back to the ship. He went aboard the steamer and took all the ships charts of the British coasts, a rifle, and a number of other things.
On this occasion, however, the pirates did not make a good job of it. The Wilhelmina did not sink, and, steam being kept up, she was able to reach the shore at Hauxley Bay where she was beached.
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Old 18-12-2014, 08:12 PM
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Another interesting report related to this incident appears in the Wells Journal 21 May 1915.

Collision with a Steamer.
Captain Sutherland, of the steamer Collairnie, which has arrived at Plymouth from Blyth, stated on May 8th, when off the Northumbrian coast, about 3 miles from the Coquet, he struck a submerged object which he believes to have been a submarine. The shock brought the crew hurrying from their quarters to the deck, and oil was seen rising to the surface of the water. Captain Sutherland said that when the fog cleared about half an hour later they saw right ahead the steamer Queen Wilhelmina, which had been torpedoed by a submarine, the crew having taken to their boats. He went to the Queen Wilhelmina, and when about an hour later his vessel drifted over the spot where the collision occurred oil was still rising to the surface, there being a large patch about a hundred feet long by some twenty feet wide.


[think it's more likely he hit the SS 'Don' under the surface. We know now the sub survived and carried on]
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